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Backaches and Exercise
Posted: 22 April 2007 02:05 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hello all.  I am 44 years old and 260 lbs., 5’7”.  I used to be very active, camping, hiking, canoeing, gardening, weight lifting, volleyball, ect.  I was able to maintain at a 175lbs.  Then along came life and responsibilities and for the last 15 years, I’ve been chained to a desk working 16 hour days.  My question is this:  Is there a way to strengthen my low back muscles (my core) so that when I exercise I don’t spend the next three days hunched over in pain?  I have modified my eating, started free weights and walking on the tread mill.  In the three months that I have consciously stuck to the program, I have dropped 10 lbs and have gone from 1 mile in an hour to 2.5 miles in an hour.  The times that I have back problems after exercise have decreased, but are still holding me back.  Recently, it is most notable, after I have spent several days at my desk (ie. Taxes!) or in the car, and haven’t been able to get up and move around as much.  Then, when I hit the tread mill, I feel great; until the next morning when I can barely get out of bed.  My doctor confirmed that it as strain (muscles) and not anything more serious.  Since I sit soooooooooo much, the muscles have just weakened from non-use.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I truly don’t want the best years of my life to be spent in a bed.

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Tony

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Posted: 22 April 2007 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Welcome to the MTM forums.  Sounds like you enjoyed all the sports I like.  I’ve been through a similar transition, from very active to work gets in the way (too a point) and back to very active.  Sounds like you’re doing great with a weight loss and exercise program, you just need to make a few modifications to help with the back soreness.  First Congratulations on your progress so far.  It’s great that you are looking for a way to work through the issues instead of looking at it as an excuse to stop.  Here are my thoughts, and I’m sure others will fill in with more. 

First - Warm-up is critical.  As we all get older (well just a little older) we need to be more careful with warming up the muscles and preparing them to exercise.  This means at least 10 minutes of some very light exercise to get the heart rate up and get the blood flowing to the muscles. 

Next - Stretching.  Focus on the muscles that will be worked, and in your case I would also make sure the back, obliques and abs are included as well as quads, hamstrings, hip flexors, shoulders, etc.  I also have back problems and stretches that focus on the large muscle masses in the hips and thighs help too. 

During your workouts concentrate on form with the free weights more than the amount of weight lifted.  As you fatigue, when your form goes, that’s when you stop.  Free weights are different from machines because you don’t have the machine available to maintain form.  When the form goes, the primary muscle you are working is essentially at the failure point and the only reason you can continue to lift is that other muscle groups come in and help (although poorly with risk of injury).  If your primary goal is weight loss, you don’t need to push the cardio very hard, just go for the long slow burn.  That means a longer workout at a lower heart rate.  The long slow burn doesn’t put as much stress on the muscles that may be causing your problems, but allows them to burn the fat. 

I strongly recommend adding Yoga to your routine since it both stretches and strengthens the core muscles.  My next recommendation is to learn some core balance ball exercises.  This is my favorite piece of exercise equipment and it is great for improving the tone of the core muscles.  Any exercises that improve balance also improve the core muscle strength.  If you purchase an exercise ball, most come with some basic core routines on DVD.  If you work with a trainer, you might ask for suggestions, or just post a question on the MTM forum. 

Finally, the cool down.  After your workout, bring your heart rate down gradually and stretch again.  This is where you will get the greatest benefit from stretching.  The muscles are already warm and are fairly loose due to the fatigue.  Don’t stretch to the point of injury, but feel a nice gentle stretch, then hold for as many seconds as your age.  It’s better to do a few stretches well than lots of stretches for only a few seconds each.  This is not the place to cut back because of time.  If you are short of time, cut back somewhere else, but not the warm up and cool down. 

Even though you are working at a desk job, you should be able to get up and move around for at least 5 minutes each hour.  It doesn’t take much to loosen and stretch the muscles that may be tightening up while working.  Watch your posture when you’re at your desk and make sure that your desk and chair are comfortable.  I keep a balance ball in my office for occasional stretching as needed, but if that’s not practical, then look into some simple stretches that can be done fairly inconspicuously. 

A little ibuprofen may help get through the acute inflammation associated with your back pain, but if you stay with a consistent exercise program designed to strengthen the muscles, you will need less and less. 

While you’re posting, I would recommend checking out the 100 days of exercise forum.  I’m sure you would find lots of helpful information there as well as a very motivating group. 

Let us know how you are doing.

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Posted: 22 April 2007 09:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Yeah, what she said. She’s so smart.

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Posted: 24 April 2007 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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I have a lumbar pillow attached to my desk chair at work and it has really helped with my lower back and neck pain because it forces you to correct your posture when you’re chained to your desk. I would do everything that Paula says and try the pillow too.

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Posted: 24 April 2007 02:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Ask your employer to get you a stand up workstation and a tall chair. They are pretty inexpensive. This will allow you to stand or sit while you work. You may need to get a recommendation from your doctor but most companies are pretty accomodating. It’s better to spend $1000 now versus $70,000 later when you need back surgery.

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Posted: 26 April 2007 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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I have to chime in here because this topic is really exciting for me personally.  First of all, I have no medical expertise at all, nor am I an expert in any kind of physcial fitness or PT, and I would hope you would get your back checked out before doing anything else and asking for ideas from people who know that kind of stuff.  Having said that, here’s what I did.  Some docotor read an x-ray and thinks I have arthritis in my lower back.  I thought, well my running days are over and on came the weight.  Somewhere along the way, I was probably drunk and watching late night infomercials, but I bought (used on ebay - I wasn’t that drunk!) a Tony Little gazzelle.  $90 or something cheap.  Get the DVD that goes with it.  That thing loosened my back, got me moving and became the gentle exercise I needed to build those damaged muscles back into shape.  I’m on the treadmill now painfree.  I hate admitting that silly thing did the trick - but there you go!  Pools are great too, and when I lose 40 more pounds you migtht see me there!  wink

Hang in there.

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Posted: 24 June 2007 07:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I want to thank everyone for there thoughts, comments and best wishes.  The stretching was a big help.  I had a set back earlier this month, so, for now I am taking it easy and letting things heal.  Then, back on the plan.  Until then, I am loving the new shows and working hard on the diet.  Take care.

Tony

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Posted: 24 June 2007 08:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Tony,

While mine is not the TL Gazelle, I started with (and still use) my glider.  Besides Amazon, you could also check out your local Craigslistbvghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (Sorry-the cat stepped on the keyboard and am leaving it to give anyone who reads it a giggle tongue wink ) craigslist and find a used one in your area.

By the way, like your new avatar!

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Posted: 24 June 2007 09:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Yeah, I found it back when I was hooked on IM.  He is my inspiration picture.  I hope to look half that good in the near future.

By the way, SHOOT the cat!!!  I work on so many computers belonging to cat owners.  You would be shocked to see how much cat hair gets sucked into a power supply.

PS- if you haven’t you should open up the case and clean it out at least once a year.  It is good for the system and prevents burnouts and fires.

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Posted: 24 June 2007 11:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Be careful, there are a lot of cat lovers here.  Even if I had to replace the computer each year, I would still keep the cat.  Good advice about keeping the computer case cleaned out though.  I like the new avatar also.  I can’t picture that guy hunching, so it should be great motivation to sit up straight and take good care of your back.

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Posted: 25 June 2007 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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I have to contend with back issues as well. These are some things that I have found that help.

1. Yoga - Believe it or not, this stuff really works. I also do Tai Chi, which again helps, but does not stretch you out the way that yoga does.

2. Core exercises - While it is a buzz phrase of late, it does help. Find some exercises that work the core of the body, which will strengthen your abs and back muscles.

3. Misc. stretching - I use my wife’s exercise ball and lay on my back on top of it for a few minutes. This really helps stretch the back out. I do this before my back workout int he mornings.

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Posted: 25 June 2007 08:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Great suggestions!  I was just starting to learn pilates and to use the exercise ball before this happened.  It is ackward at first, but I could definitely tell it was doing something.  I started back on the treadmill today, and if all goes well will resume the ball routines next week.  This is longest that I have been out of commission, and I want to make it the last time.  So, I appreciate any advise the “experts” can share.  Thank you.

Tony

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Posted: 21 December 2007 12:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Hi, Tony,

I’m a bit belated here. I’ve been having some back trouble lately, but doing better with the help of some stretching and chiropractic adjustments.

A few years ago I borrowed a book from my local library called “Breathworks For Your Back” by Nancy Swayzee.  It teaches a program of really gentle core-strengthening exercises involving pulling in the abs and holding them from some relaxed positions.  I haven’t done them in a while, but it does work if you keep it up.

I’ve been shying away from the oblique crunches for the past few weeks due to the pinched nerve flareup, so last night in exercise class, when the other women were doing this floor routine that involved twisting, I did some straight crunches, not a big jerky movement, but small and focused.  Hope this helps.

Peace and joy,

Ann

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